You will know why dairy farming is a good business, and what to look out for when you are starting out, because I am going to share some of my experiences (I have been involved directly in dairy farming for the last almost-two years).
Dairy Farming is a very hot topic in Pakistan. A lot of seasoned and would-be entrepreneurs have already jumped onto the Dairy Farming bandwagon in Pakistan, and even more so like to talk about getting into dairy farming. But have you asked yourself this question, “why start a dairy farm?”
Why Start A Dairy Farm
Yours truly have been working on the dairy farming project since June 2009. My interest was pretty much ‘academic’ at first; just knowing how the business and the animals operate. It was after almost a year of travelling in and around Punjab, meeting countless number of people in the field, discussing and debating with some very qualified consultants and breeders, that I decided to dip my toes in this project.
I was interested in quite a few facets of Dairy Farming:
- The Business Model: Dairy farming has a very unique business model, and no other business has the capability of multiplying its assets while still producing revenue. Remarkable.
- The Current Situation: One of many lessons that Richard Branson has taught me is that you should get into a business where you think you can do better. Dairy farming, I knew, had a very, very large room for improvement.
- A Very Solid Demand: A lot of businesses and entrepreneurs would consider a ‘demand’ for something a good enough reason to get into any project. But for me, dairy farming is not only the demand of the market, but also a need. People need healthy, quality milk (and meat). It fits in with the idea of for-profit philanthropy where I stand a chance of actually helping people out, and earning prayers as well as profits. Now that’s an inspiration!
- Super Integration: This was not vertical integration as much as it was super integration. I already have two independent projects, one agriculture farming and the other is milk supply within Lahore, Alhumdulillah. The dairy farm has the potential of sitting in very nicely between the two, and providing wholesome integration. Although integration of any two businesses, much less three, is a pain in the neck (amongst other body parts), dairy farming provides me with the perfect long-term inspiration for working on these three projects!
Warning: Know This Before You Start Dairy Farming
Most of the things people say, they just say them without much thought. They’d discourage you from doing anything different. This should not stop any half-decent starta from doing and starting different projects, of course. Having said that, following are the main points – so far – that should be considered when starting your own dairy farm:
1. It is a long term project.
There are no two ways about it. The time when you actually start seeing profits, IF a lot of things go right, is at least three years, usually five years. If you start taking out profits from it before three years, be prepared to inject more money in to it afterwards. But the upside to this remarkable business model is best explained by the following example that I frequently give to my friends and would-be entrepreneurs:
- I start a shoe shop, selling shows. You start a dairy farm, selling milk.
- After three years, if both of us do well in our businesses, I’d be richer than you.
- After six years, I’d have five branches all over the city, and will still be richer than you. You’d have great cash flows but you will find it hard to beat my retail outlets.
- Ten years later, it won’t matter how good I am doing, you will be much richer than me, in terms of assets, and most importantly, in terms of cash in hand.
- After 10 years, no business seem to even come close to the almost logarithmic growth of a dairy farm.
So if you can train yourself to actually think slow and steady, rather than fast and wobbly, then dairy farming is definitely something to consider.
2. The Most Important Factor is Currently the Hardest
The hardest part of setting up a dairy farm is the procurement of good-quality, high-yielding, environment-hardened animals. This is also the most important activity for an owner of a dairy farm.
You can go for imported cows, but I did not and I recommend that you don’t either.
A lot of people will tell you that you shouldn’t because they are expensive. I want you to know that imported cows are not expensive. If you are paying 140,000 (PKR) for a cross-bred cow, then paying 180,000 for an imported cow does not make the cow ‘expensive expensive’, it just makes it ‘relatively expensive’. And your target is not to increase the number of heads, but to increase the number of liters of milk. So an imported cow averaging 25 to 30 liters per lactation is much better than a cross-bred cow averaging 14 to 18 liters per lactation. The ROI is just plain and simple and you should stop listening to people who tell you otherwise.
But that’s not the reason why you should not get imported cows. The number one problem with imported cows is that they are unable to withstand the blast of heat of the Pakistani summers. Setting up the right infrastructure is essential, but that is not the only thing that you’d have to look into. There is disease and the very little margin of error that the imported cows give to you and your management.
I would suggest you do what I am doing; find good-quality locally bred cows, make sure that your dairy farm shed and cooling infrastructure is very much in place and then run the farm for at least a year to gauge how well your infrastructure (shed, cooling etc) is handling your locally-bred cows.
But that brings me back to the main point: finding high-quality locally bred cows is the hardest thing you’d have to do. It is also the MOST IMPORTANT thing for any dairy farm. As I have repeated this repeatedly (!!), a dairy farm’s main function is to procure and breed good-quality cows. The milk (and meat) is a by product of that main function.
So be prepared to hunt down good animals wherever you can find them. I remember travelling a total of 2000 kms plus, by road, all over Punjab, in one week, just to see and meet cow breeders. I didn’t pay half as much attention to the shed that I was constructing, or even the silage pits that were being prepared at the time, because purchasing the right animals is that one 20% activity that gives more than 80% of the result (if you are not aware of the wonderful 80/20 principle and how it applies to everything I talk about here, do read up on it by clicking here)
3. Finding the right people
Finding the right person to manage your dairy farm is also something to pay VERY close attention to. Stealing milk is very easy. If you do not trust the person who is managing the farm, then that’s a losing proposition. You should pray that God helps you find that person. You can also start with a solid attitude of trust, of reward and of accountability. I can write quite a few things on how to deal with people, because that is ALL of this is about, but suffice it to say for now, that one of the hardest things to do in dairy farming – just like in any other business – is to find the right people to manage and carry your dairy farm forward.
Details of who’s who and how many people should do what activity, those things are not the scope of this article and may be covered/posted later, God willing.
Finding technical help like that of vets and professional consults for animal feeding etc is NOT a problem, especially here in Pakistan. That is again one of the benefits of dairy farming, that the infrastructure that only a government can provide, is ALREADY IN PLACE in Pakistan. Sure there are problems, but it is good enough for you to not complain and get some work done.
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This is just a run down of my thoughts on dairy farming and some – just some – of the pitfalls that you should look out for. By God’s Grace, my dairy farm has been operational for a about 4 months now and I am happy that I have started this business.
God guide and bless us all. Good luck to you in your conquests and queries.
NOTE:We now have a community DEDICATED to Dairy Farming! I have started a small forum site that we all can use and share our experiences AND ask for help! Please click here to check it out because you will find a lot of help, God willing.
Update June 2012:
Thanks to the overwhelming response and feedback on this post, I am happy to report that the dairy farming guide is available for download.
A lot of people who read these free resources and comment and meet me etc do not buy the eBook and I don’t want to put any sort of pressure on you.
But those who have bought the eBook have very good things to say about it, by God’s Grace. I thank you and wish you all the best.
To know more about the Dairy Farming Guide, please click here. Thanks. And God bless.
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Hey there momekh well i have seen all the information regarding animals and buying and selling and idea of dairy and much more but can we get contacts of ur ustaads or ustaad -e- mohtrum got to visit their farms to get practical information and got to see animals and look forward for new ideas which we dont have at our own places and about animals breeding and much more pls do let us know about those contacts … thanks brov…
Dear Sir. I want to started the cow form house in K.P.K terbela ghazi plese help me and give the best idea for started in cow forme house. please tell me how much need investment for this forme .03315684465
dear sir,
I want to start dairy farm in karachi. i need ur advise regarding investment and proper location for dairy farm
Fazal Mehmood
0332 3035497
Am working in dubai last 5 year now i want to start a buzziness in pakistan i need ur gentel advice and info about this buzziness in june i will leave dubai n vizat ur form also i will wait ur email.Ak.
can someone guide me about the disposal of cow milk in Karachi?
I am interested in the answers of following questions;
1. To whom we can sale the Cow Milk? (Since it is not popular for domestic use)
2. how much roughly the per liter selling price of cow milk in comparison of the Buffalo in wholesale?
Hi All,
I really love the idea of self-employment as some said “If you dont start start building your dreams, someone will hire u to build theirs.” I just wanted to share some information regarding Vaccination of cows. Various studies have shown association of less productivity and infertility in cows with vaccination. Kindly check this link http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21676477
Regarding vaccination it is also alarming to find that even for humans they have many side effects. In USA vaccine injury compensation act has been passed in 1986. Kindly do some research.
One last thing, plz do not sell your milk to BIG MILK COMPANIES. These companies destroy all water soluble vitamins of heating to very high temperatures. Also these companies reduce fat soluble vitamins.
Best of luck to all of you for earning Halal Rizk.
Dr. Syed Khurram Raza Naqvi
dr_khurram14@hotmail.com
salaam to every one
I am running a cattle/ dairy farm. Due to extensive hot weather at Rahimyaarkhan ,Australian or Sahiwal breed cant survive here. Only cholistani breed survives but this breed give very less milk. Can any one suggest me any breed which can survive in hot,dry weather and can give better results. Regards,
Please brief me all updates.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
what should be a good initial investment on dairy farm??
I don’t have shortage of land, (some 1800 canal of agricultural land in south Punjab belongs to my family) but i want to put my own investment on envisioned dairy farm. Although, i have shortage of cash right now but i am earning good through my professional career, i am looking at around PKR 2.5 million of initial investment. is that enough, or should i wait till i manage more investment. Just need a very rough idea. Thanks in advance
dear sir,
I want to start dairy farm in karachi. i need ur advise regarding investment and proper location for dairy farm
I am trying to start a dairy farm in Karachi as well, lets share the research and work collaboratively.
Dairy farming is a bushiness which is very difficult and time consuming…main beneficiary are the milking companies. Dairy farmers must have their own organization to make a pressure group and get maximum benefit to the dairy farmers.
Friends AoA. I would like to start this cattel farming business. I have few queries and need some advice. What would be the best number of cows to start with. And is it more profitable to start with the business with cows or buffalows. What would be the price of a good Australian cow? Many thanks
Hi,
Me and my friend living in U.K. starting new business (Dairy Farming) ASAP near Rawalpindi, We looking forward to more people who might help us or they need any financial support or any help please reply me
Thanks,
Dear Iffy,
I have a small dairy farm containing 2 Cows and 4 Buffaloes .
Its working fine mean my animals are of very good breed and i have very good average of milk……….
Now i want to extend my farm and need to buy more animals. I want some financial support if possible but not on interest on Islamic basis.
yi sab paractically possibale nahi hay sarvant??????? App ko maza chakha dheen gay no no no dairy is not a bussinus no one should do this i have very very bad exprince d ont do this ever
it is not possible? Many people leave it dairy farm your sarvat app ko zaleel kar kay rakh deen gay difficult due to sarvants am i right?
how should i contact you and want to meet you.
regards
just found this article randomly from google,dairy farming is our family business and if any one want any kind of help than contact me through my email shahoo_dec9@yahoo.com …….
I wish to start the dairy farming, currently I am running an export knitted garment organization at Faisalabad. I am basically agricultural engineering graduate, and have own family agriculture land of 25 acres cultivated land at Guttwala near to city of Faisalabad. If any body can support me , pls. contact me either thru e-mail ahbar77@hotmail.com
Asalam-wa-alaikum Momekh,
I live in Karachi, & intend to (infact almost final & ready to go In 2~3 days), a dairy farm in Lahore, initial idea is to start with 25~30 milking cattles i.e, Buffaloes & Cows, farm will be situated at Thokar Niaz baig.
It will be just a begining & if plans go right I’ll see a heard to 75~100 cattles in a year.
Please guide me some points to take care initially not to jeoperdize the planning and get my target successfully.
Please also advise me your cotnact number, as I’ll be in Lahore in next 3~4 days & i’ll be glad to pay you a visit at your farm (if possible)
Await.
Thanks
Arshad
Hey it is wonderful blog, interesting i am from gilgit baltistan, i would like to start business means dairy forming, still confuse either it will work or not over there, any one can help me out, currently i am doing a job i Saudi Arabia…Thank you.
AOA i need total guidance to start cattle farming. please anyone. i belong to rawalpindi.
i want to purchase bichry ( 50 nos ) if any one can provide me in sialkot .. contact me on 03232021212
Hi, i wanna start a dairy farm tell me if you have any info that how run the farm and how can v maintain the farm and where v buy from good animals?
dear i have 25 acre agri land in Gharo and wants to start dairy farming, but i need finance for it. kindly guide me from where i could acquire a loan or grant from any institutiion and how.
regards.
nadir zuberi
This is an interesting piece.Thank you. I am interested in setting up a diary farm.i live in Karachi do not have any connections or infrastructure/ land in Punjab.
What is the estimated financial outlay to start afresh including land and has anyone done economic feasibility. What is the best place to set up the farm.
have you started the farm?
can you shareyour research and experiences?
Dear Momekh Bhai, your blog is very inspiring and after smeda feasibility report your blog is very incorrigible.after being a silent visitor for months I’m writing to get your help to start a successful dairy farm. I am considering to start dairy business in Jauharabad Dist. Khushab with capacity of 100 animals. I have around 75 acres of land there. what are the difficulties in selling milk. which milk plant companies collect milk from my area and for door collection what is the required quantity. Nurpur Milk plant is 45 km from my land. scope getting good animals and procedure to get milk plant company to bind them in contract to collect milk. what are the requirements of milk plant in quality of milk. what is the price per liter now a days a farmer get.
detailed answer on selling milk will be helpful
Dear Aoa hope u will be fine.what wil happen of cows in stroming weather under this type of shed.how this low hight n light weight shed can prevent animals from extremely hot weather.Now a days people r thinking about controled environment sheds in dairy business also.
AOA.my name is Ali Abbas.want to start this bussiness.i have read and heard all about it and planned to start.if anyone can help or suggest me the good company or people then i will prefer them.my location is jhang chiniot road. Contact info;0323-6726690.
thank you.
Regards,
Syed Ali Abbas Naqvi.
How to start this business in Chakwal (Near Balkassar Motorway). What type of cows are mostly recommended in this region.
Asad
A.o.a.
Dear Asad, i also belongs to Chakwal you can ask any question about cattle farming on my mobile 0345-2102982
Thanks,
Shahzad Malik
Mob:0345-2102982
Thanks for sending all detail recently i want Calf of 3 to 5 months old if any person knows then tell me.
Regards,
Shahzad Malik
Mob:0345-2102982
Dear,
AoA,
Hope you will be fine by the grace of Almighty Allah.
I am Yasir, I have seen your query regarding the requirement of Calves. I am running a Meat Cattle Farm. I can provide you your required number of Calves at some good reasonable price. If interested please call me on 0333-5228401
no one is replying where r all friendz ? busy in ramdan…
Kindly contact on my mobile 0345-2102982
Dear Khurram,
If you want to start cattle gfarming then contact me on my mobile 0345-2102982
Thanks,
Shahzad Malik
Dear Momik & Bilal Ch.
Doing fascinating work here
& providing really useful info who is interested in this business like me. I
am living in Karachi and fed up with the life of
that killing city and planning to move back to my home city Sargodha. I would like to visit some good
farm near Sargodha can u recommend some of them & if it’s not bothering you
can I visit your farm and suggest me the animal should I purchase as the temp in summer is 40+ can HOLSTEIN & FRIESIAN survive
in that hot weather and have any ideal which companies have milk collection center
in sargodha.
chkhuram@gmail.com
i am zafar hussain i live in sargodha bhera i intersted dairy farm my sell phon no 03214496590
salaam i am making plane for dairy farm for long time i have land and some cows too and i am originlay a farmer need more info please let me know how to meet you my email ihsanmaher@gail.com
hello brother i am curentlu in canada comming to pak in oct can i please please meet you there if yes how
Sallam everyone,
Brother Momekh keep up the good work buddy! I did purchase your e-Guide for dairy farming and it was to the point! Really enjoyed reading it. One thing I wanted to check with everyone here is that what is the “actual” cost of getting a cow pregnant using imported semen?
I understand that it takes about 2.5 doses for the cow to get pregnant on avg each year,but how many straws does this require? and how may doses are needed and what is the complete cost per animal for using AI with exotic bull semen.
Thanks,
Imran
that is a very important, and often overlooked question, Imran. You’ve heard right… and each dose costed me approx 6000 so that’s almost 15000 per animal per lactation. And even then there are no guarantees. A lot depends on the technician and the health of the cow as well. I now try 3 times with heifers that have grown up on my farm and with all others, I try 2 times. That’s my current method. When all else fails, we use a bull and that is not a good thing for the farm. Unless of course you take the BEST solution and get your hands on a good bull!
And yes, thank you for the appreciation of the eBook Imran
am zafar hussain i live in sargodha bhera i intersted dairy farm my sell phon no 03214496590
Dear Momekh,
Mashallah you are doing fine work really appreciate you for this.
I have in Mind Some Question You or any one interested in given answer is highly obliged.
Q1- In the areas where people normally used Buffalo milk what strategy you suggest for open a dairy firm start with 10 animals? ( Areas liks Rahim Yarkhan and Sadiqabad surroundings)
Q2- Is there any Company near Above mention areas buying Milk (like Nestle) ?
Q3- In your whole blog i search for the details of contract with the companies (Like Nestle) were not found. Could you or any one will provide the details of contract (like Contract qualification, Milk yielding minimum qty, Rate and etc)?
Q4- Reference to my Q1 some people mix milk of Cow with buffalo milk .. is it a right thing? or if yes what is the ratio of mix ( like 4 buffalo with 1 cow milk)?
I m waiting for your kind reply…May Allah bless you in your business.
Kind Regards.
*** Animals for sale at Eastern Farms ***
We are selling a number of cows/buffalos from our existing herd. All the animals are in good health and have been taken care of since the beginning.
A few of them have recently given birth & some will give birth within sometime.
Anyone interested can contact us at our facebook page;
https://www.facebook.com/EasternFarms
Cell #: 0345-4266642
I have put up a question at the DairyFarmer.co forums on how to buy good quality animals… readers of this blog are welcome to give their opinions.
Click here to see How do you buy Good Quality Animals?
Dear Momekh
I found your blog very informative for those who are new and want to start new dairy form. I am also interested and want want some information. I found that in this field the people who are running farms are not cooperative, they do not share there information and their sources. I want to visit any farm which is cooperative and share some basic information about infrastructure of the farm.
Is there any body included your farm.
Please help me in this regard
Ghazanfar Ali
Thank you for your comments Sir
Much appreciated
Hi Momekh,
I am currently doing a job. but now I am seriously thinking about starting a job initially from low level and dairy farm is my first choice. I am living in Gujrat. Please suggest me that will it be a good choice to start a dairy business while doing a full time job or not?
If you can manage it but it will be hard. If you can afford to, then first quit your job. I wish you all the best, Gul.
If you are really like cattle farming kindly tell me your exact location and space of land ?
Regards,
Shahzad Malik
Mob: 0345-2102982
hi, ur good idea in farming,if u start farming business minmum 15 num of cow, wanna lke in detail send me mail,
AOA i need total guidance to start cattle farming. please anyone. i belong to karachi 0341-3575743
Salaam everyone.
Its great to see so many eager and self motivated people here. I hope Inshallah everyone’s dreams become a success story.
We, ( that is my wife and I ) have done our tour of duty in life and both amicably have came to the conclusion, that going back to the basics in country farming is deffinatly a path to peace.
Having spent our entire lives in London, and obviously going into farming is like fish out of water, or even visiting Pakistan was another experience in itself. Brother Momekh done a splended job in relating and sharing his start up ( Inshallah he will succeed ).
I think the momentious task is finding decent, honest people to work on the farm. We are Inshallah startng a goat, beef and dairy farm in Fetah Jang in December 2012 and you may correctly think we’re jumping into the deep end,but I think we should all do it! One small step for man and one giant leap for mankind!
Thats not to say, one should refrain from aquiring knowledge and go in blind, but it does not matter how much one plans and re-plans, you will evedently stumble and make mistakes and learn. I say to all …. Say Bissmillah and start.
Having visited various farms this year and witnessing some sights which I think it best not to elaborate any further, I would ask all to look after your animals as you would maintain yourself. Keep the enviroment clean like you would a mosque. And further, be honest as an angel and thats the formula for success, Allah will do all the planning for you!!
Best of luck
Danial
twilight_ent@hotmail.com
Thank you Danial. Loved your thoughts.
Would love to visit your farm when it’s ready for a cup of tea perhaps.
I wish you all the best.
A lot of people join this blog thinking that we only talk about dairy farming. I want to take this opportunity to remind everyone that the idea behind a business, any business, is to support your life. Not the other way around. Be creatively self employed to live a wholesome life.
God bless and rock on broda!
Salaam to all the brothers and sisters.
Momekh, just give me a call when your around Islamabad for that cup of tea, but make sure you bring some wellies with you! lol
I think i managed to train my off -spring in the art of self sufficiency, and lo and behold! I’m a free man! (God knows how long this joyful freedom will last in Pakistan). Anyway, will be arriving in Pakistan Inshallah next week, so need plenty of your good dua’s.
Yesterday, I called a friend in Islamabad to pick me up from the airport, and he was far more curious as to why i had purchased this agricultural land and whether i was intending to build my home in the wilderness. ( I think he was implying politely that i had actually gone insane ). So, I put his inquisitive mind at ease and said I intended to keep animals. After a moment of silence, he replied that in Pakistan there is nothing but animals and certainly i was on the right track! I only realized what he meant an hour later!lol
By the way brother Momekh, that cowboy hat of yours is awesome, it really does credit you.
See you soon Inshallah in good health. My dua’s and best wishes to everyone.
hahaha… the adventure continues!!
thank you for the wishes…
Brother Danial it is so heartening to know that people like you are coming back to Pakistan and considering it a good opportunity for your livelihood. Pakistan is a great country and has the potential to allow progress and prosperity to its inmates. Brother i have a small dairy farm of my own and am running it since a little less then 3 yrs. My only advice to you is to first own some piece of land for the guaranteed fodder for your animals for complete year and dont go for rented land. Start with Cows first and then goats, may be after few months when you get some experience of animals care you can enter in this venture.
Wish you all the best.
Salaam to everyone.
Thank you Aamir Roy for being so sincere and for your time. Your words of wisdom have now been engraved!
Actually a couple of deals in purchasing fodder land have unfortunately gone sour. Apparently, there’s some sought of blind gold rush in Fateh Jang’s agricultural land ( All connected to some new airport ), there’s people trying to sell land that does not even belong to them!
On our existing land we have started water boring, so we need everyone’s strong dua’s for endless sweet water.
This month we had a great harvest of corn on this particular land
( First time ever and even though still being here in London, it’s a wonderful feeling). I understand about 20% of it was stolen, its mind boggling and sad, but perhaps brother Momekh is right, the adventure continues! I ask Allah to keep me in the company of the rightous .
Wishing you peace and harmony.
Danial
twilight_ent@hotmail.com
I (we) wish and pray for the best for you and yours, Danial.
what i would like to know is that what is the future of the dairy farming in pakistan?? is it getting too saturated and which would mean that in future the price of milk is likely to fall? or if it has the capacity to expand?
A.A all of U guys,
Doe,s the Momekh,s Dairy Farming Guide any use full, anybody bought it?
And the last question to Momekh if the intro price coming back on the guide by any chance.
I have not started my farm yet but just reading around the like minded peoples stories. W.A
I have approved this comment with hopes that we all will get some honest feedback for the Guide as well.
The feedback I personally get is that the Guide has really benefited the buyer. But let’s see what comes here…
Hello Shehzad
I am reading The Guide i plan to finish it this wk end, will put my feed back here. But uptill now i found it very interesting, encouraging, promising. It talks about different options to handle the situation of ” Initiating your dairy launch”. Normally you would find experts & seniors listing up all horrid issues and problems. Rarely would anyone share the options to handle. Mohammad is the only person, among many whom i met, who generously shared this info with us. Gur ki baat koi koi batata hai mere bhai.
The benefits of this guide depends on your Perception.
Regards
A.A,
Thank U Momekh for ur reply but my intro price question is still there…? Shukria again.
Any idea on the cattle rearing (cows and buffaloes i.e NILI RAVI) and then selling off, rather than farming them for milk?… is it less hassle for the starter like myself, or is it the same?
All comparisons (likes/differences) welcome.
salamz to all my friends
I want to start dariy farm in kpk swabi . i hav 30 kanals of land but i dnt no how start this business bocz i hav no contacts in this field some one guide me plz . i want 2 buy 8
Hi all friends ,
Excellent communication via momek and help full for dairy farmers…..
Well done ………….
hello momekh bahi, bilal ch and everyone around. I m waqar from peshawar…before i started a dairy farm i use to visit this blog on and off but then i struck in the tough activities of my farm and cudnt able to follow the blog and share my experience …
the idea of starting a dairy farm was generated dramatically by one one my friend who was in search for one drop of pure milk heheh
…. now by the grace of god i have 25 animals and the number is still growing on with my further investment and profit from animals on fields..i have started from 13 animals and with ZERO exp back in december 2011…i dnt own any agri land and got a farm on rent…it doesn’t sound profitable at the beginning and i thought i may loose my invesntmrnt but then ( my gawala said to me one day..aik admi aik carore haar gaya and aik admi dil har gaya ) i didnt loose hope and carried on….
Momekh bahi and bilal bhai after biting by many sellers ( as u must know their nature of working and standards ) my mind clicked to approach you for guidance and helping me out in buy animals…i have a plan to buy some more animals in july…soooooooooo m looking forward to u guys and hope for the best….
Regards
Urban Dairies
aoa sir i m from lahore i want to get the knowledge of something actually i ve an investment of 15000 to 20000 and i want k mein koi calf ly ky hissay py dy dn…can u guide me?
coz i want to start my hobby as well as business
Dear Sir,
I want to buy a colling fans for my dairy farms , can someone send me the contactat details of the colloing co.
Dear Sir,
Me intend to build a new dairy farm in which the prime focus is to build a shed for cows. We have the required land under our own ownership & also have 3 Lakhs to build the same; however, we need the money to purchase cows. We have decided that whoever will purchase for us 20 Australian cows, we’ll repay him the lump sum within two years on monthly installments of 50,000 & will also make him our 50% partner in our farm business.We’ll look after the farm ourselves. Whoever will get us 20 cows bought, we’ll give him a cheque as a testimony ,equal to the cost spent on cows’ purchase. We’ll also write an agreement affidevit stating the 50% partnership of the one giving us loan since we dont want to get interest based loans from banks. We believe in pure business, free of any interest on loans that may spoil our good deeds. If any further agreement or proof is required in this regard,we are ready to serve for the same. We live in district Gujranwala village ‘Nounikey’ where our property is located & we desire to build our farm there. Pls advise us further in this regard. Looking forward for your swift response.
Regards ,
Gujranwala Pakistan
Dear brother,
I believe that the idea of having a Dairy oriented magazine is brilliant. This way we can see each others farms / animals pics and clips thus can get correct information and advice as well. Plz do consider this.
heloo Dr.Saeed / Momekh
i am from lahore and im planning to start with a cattle farm.i have 14kanals of land near baedian road lahore.i want some true suggestions from regrading starting cattle farming as i am very much intretsed and this is my passion from a long time.
first question is tht whther i should buy australian cows or local shaiwal cows,secondly how to design a cattle farmso that this hot weather cannot affect our animal.
ill be very thankful to you if u guide me with this..ive been researching alot till now and im unable to come up with many things.wants some true suggestions
AOA to All,(Mohkam, Dr Saeed)
I am a silent reader of this forum. Althoguh ths forum is very informatice and helpfull but there are some things i would like to draw your attention.if you can work on it it will save a lot of time and unnecessary queuries.
1- If possible, all members having their own farms , should upload their farm videos for better understanding of newcommers.
2- Many brothers are asking same questions again and again like sugesstions to start a business, breed etc.. so i think if you can make some sub-sections in your blog w.r.t topic will help lot in time savings.
3- most important i can see only 1/2 names of organisations dealing with dairy like altaf & co etc, if possible please start a magazene, either monthly or after 2 or 3 month containing some detailed information will be a good thing, and for the start i think only soft form will be ok rather than paper format.
my be i am asking too much in short time but if we all make some good sugesstions the result will be good.
Looking forward for the sucess of all brothers.
Long live Pakistan
salam dr saeed ,sir i want to know that i have started a dairy farm and i have dedicated 12 acre land for this that is very fertile and have great water availibilty .my question to you is is salage good for cows all round year or it will b given at the time of shortage of fooder,i can grow 2 crops of corn on 12 acres twice a year which makes it 24 acres of corn in a year but some one told me thats not fair with your animals as its not green fooder,and suggested to harvest on crop of corn for silage and rest on green fooder mix silage with green fooder.and my second question is how many animals i can keep having dedicated 12 acres of land for it thanks in advance would really appreciate an anser
Asalm-o-alaikum
it is so pleasent to know that Pakistan has all the
youth who want to do , good for fellow pakistanies. im realy
inpressed by the study , and the research you guys have done .
i have been visting farms , in usa, no doubt jersey cows are the best
for weather we have in pakistan , but if some one can get cross breed
holstine+jersey that will be the best cow for farming , in pakistn,
Good luck
nasr
pls can you help from where could we get these cross (holsten + jersey)
do you know any local pakistan source to get this.
aoa dear all
i have started my farm but from the 1st day i was bit by the Foot and mouth disease in my farm even on the 2nd day i started vaccination but it almost effect my 4 cow and one clave so any body help me in this regard what should i do further i started treatment but still the risk is high.
Only precaution,This prob.used to come in summers only.Now year round.Make sure you have strict quarantine rules at your farm.Also sheep and goats are carriers.
Dear Friends,
I have some animals forsale first lactations near about 5 animals
Best Regards,
Naveed
wat animals do u have for sale send me the price and wat kind of animal it is
dear,
For silage storage in three walled bunkers can we use sheds which are shell type 33′x66′ height almost 12′ and floor is of concrete?
your comment awaited,
regards,
farhan
salam dear farhan, for silage making we need complete pressing of fodder being ussed for silage to remove all air from it to maximize the fermentation process, if you make the roof it will hinder the pressing process which is to be done with tractor. and after complete pressing we need air tight covering of silage which again hinder by rooof, and its not ecnomical ,
hey everybody,
well um really suprised to see that so many people are intrested in the same business, well i did a lot of research recently on many bussinesses and where to invest and this was only One thing where it just keeps getting better, i have more then 15 kanals of land near raawalpindi, and inshahAllah this december im starting my own farm,, this page was very useful and i look fwd for more ideas and suggestuions, thank you guys
regards
thanks it,s pleasure, if you need any suggestion you can contact
thanks
dr saeed
Dear all
Thanks for very useful information.
I’m from Gujrat, and my village Sabowal is very near to city. I want to start a dairy farm and I’m unable to decide which animal I prefer cow or buffalo, because buffalo milk is easy to sale and almost at Rs 60 per Kg, cow milk is not more Rs 45 per Kg and not easy to sale.
Can anybody give me the comparison of Cow Vs buffalo dairy form
Thanks in advance
Zahid Raza Ch.
cow is more ecnomical than buffalo regarding production, and feedind cost
thanks
dr saeed
simply workout per ltr.cost and dry period for buffs and cows.
Have seen v.good buff farms with two third animals dry.and seen good cow farms with one third dry animals.Buff ave 8,9ltrs and cow[local]16 to 17ltrs ave per animal.
thanks dr saeed sb. and Naeem Malik for your kind information and specially momekh to provide us this informative environment. and really love the sincere comment of Bilal Ch.(I thing Mr. Bilal is on leave )
Aoa Dear all
after the salient reading of this bolg i have started my farm in District charsadda alhamdu lelahh i have purchased 5 cows and searching for more 10 cows.
by grace of GOD i complete my shade for 25 animal with following all the standards of Dr.Ashraf and some good teachers as i learn from MOMEKH ideas. i think this experience will lead me to a successful dairy farming professional.
now i only need the proper techniques for the silage making and storing plz.
Hey Momekh,
A really informative piece put forward by you,dear. I am from Karachi and want to establish a dairy farm in Gujranwala on our agricultural land. I would like you to suggest me the consultants and experts who can guide me on this and indicate possible financial cost. With the basic infrastructure, land and fodder available, I would like to invest on animals, storage, processing of fodder, waste removal and sterilization. However, the thing is I am planning to delve completely in the business and leave a good job; which means the risk is high so, need a very accurate guidance. Kindly, guide me with this.
Me intend to build a new dairy farm in which the prime focus is to build a shed for cows. We have the required land under our own ownership & also have 3 Lakhs to build the same; however, we need the money to purchase cows. We have decided that whoever will purchase for us 20 Australian cows, we’ll repay him the lump sum within two years on monthly installments of 50,000 & will also make him our 50% partner in our farm business.We’ll look after the farm ourselves. Whoever will get us 20 cows bought, we’ll give him a cheque as a testimony ,equal to the cost spent on cows’ purchase. We’ll also write an agreement affidevit stating the 50% partnership of the one giving us loan since we dont want to get interest based loans from banks. We believe in pure business, free of any interest on loans that may spoil our good deeds. If any further agreement or proof is required in this regard,we are ready to serve for the same. We live in district Gujranwala village ‘Nounikey’ where our property is located & we desire to build our farm there. Pls advise us further in this regard. Looking forward for your swift response.
Regards ,
Mubsher Hassan
Gujranwala Pakistan
Talal Bhai have you started the farm or still thinking. same situation with me I am from karachi and planning to make a dairy farm in shahpur near sargodha. are there milk plants companies so i can do some kind of contract with them for milk selling security and buying 50 animals is an easy task or can make me crazy finding right animals.I have around 100 acres in jauharabad Dist khushab can that be used to make a 100 animal farm. where can be great quantity milk sold.
answers will be helpful
Any one on this forum having experience of the sexed semen from Altaf & Co. or Profarm to get the heifer calves? and how successful it is.
quite successful,however a friend used 40,doses and got 8,male calves
Salaam Bilal ch,
are you runing a dairy farm, if yes which part of punjab because I would like to visit a practical/ operationaly runing farm around rawalpindi.
Thanks
Regards
Jabbar
asalams I want to start this business. My question is that imported austrailian cows are good or locall? please some one answer me or any contact number am confuse. and from where I can buy imported cows.
dear your question was so simple i think u r joking with people austrailia breeds are best but they are much sensitive in summer there fore there handling is difficult and these are profit able its ur choice which one u keep but local breeds are best for small busness if u keep local breed then i advice u keep buffaloes
Dear Bilal Ch.
Salam,
I want to start a dairy farm where can i get more information on dairy farming in PAKISTAN? and which city is suitable for the dairy farm? and is there enough demand of milk so i can sell the milk just after getting from a cow? if yes how? i m interested to have a farm in Karachi or Khairpur, is there any milk processing company that can buy the milk near these cities of Sindh?
please send me a mail on my personal mail shafqatali37@yahoo.com so i can get your advise through mail.Momekh Edit: Please use the comments here as the answer to this question will benefit a lot of people as well! Thank youThanks
Dear Ali! A dairy farm should be established at a place with good availability of green fodder & drinking water, and climate may better not be too extreme. Preferably it shud be close to a big city and have good road access so that u can get a better price for ur product.
As for milk,find which milk packaging companies have collection network in ur area.I believe Engro has collection in Sindh besides others.Companies lift milk from ur doorstep depending upon milk volume.
Regards,
Bilal Ch
Dear All and Especially Momekh
Asslamo Alaykum
Very much impressed by the site and members comments and help. I am Shahid doing job and earning good halaal living Alhamdu Lillah. I belong to a small farming family. One of my brother (graduate in Economics) wanted to do dairy farming. About 10 years ago I managed to built a shed for him and purchased 4 holistein frasian cows from a farm in Islamabad and also a certified bull. All this investment was lost as my brother could not mange the farm and because at that time such a professional and devoted forum like this was not known to me. The bull got infected and later on was slaughtered. However the offspring of that bull were sold on exceptionally high rates. In our area only cross breed can survive. This is my personal point of view because of extreme temperatures in winter and summer.
I still think that its a service to community if the breeds of the area could be improved. I am impressed by the way you are sharing your experiences and information and Insha Allah one day I will need your help in re-establishing my farm. Dairy farming has got the potential to self employ the people and to provide good milk to the community.
Regards
Muhammad Shahid
Dear Shahid! Lucky for us, we dont need to rely on Bulls anymore. Very high quality semen of extra ordinary foreign Bulls is available for Artificial Insemination in Pakistan thru various companies.
Regards,
Bilal Ch.
Kindly contact my mobile 0345-2102982
Shahzad Malik
Dear Muhammad Shahid,
Could you tell me your exact location of living bcz i am 2 interested in cattle farming.
Thanks,
Shahzad Malik
Mob:0345-2102982
Aslaam alaikam to all, I am looking bit of information if anybody can tell methat where is collection company or pasturising plant around Rawalpindi or islamabad
W salam,
Kindly contact with me my mobile number is 0345-2102982
Shahzad Malik
Hello everyone,
I realy find this site useful, we moved to pk recently and trying to set up some thing. My husband is from abroad but I am from here I have got good knowledge of oprations of dairy farm business. Please can someone tell me where and how to supply because u cant go door to door for that. We are in rawalpindi area. Also I have notice in pk eople do not appriciate cow milk, then type of rate is going for bulk cow milk. Please help me
Regards
Maliha
Nestle has a great collection in Punjab, besides smaller Milk packaging companies have collection setups in one area or the other…all u have to do is look.
Secondly,its the milk production that is the hard part. If u make a dairy production setup around Rawalpindi/Islamabad, it shudnt be that much of a problem bulk-selling your milk to outlets. And yes, cow milk is not yet very sellable to domestic consumers in open form, however people happily buy packaged milk which almost always comprises cow milk.
Regards,
Bilal Ch.
Kindly contact my mobile 0345-2102982
salam
haroon asghar says:
March 31, 2012 at 7:39 pm
salam dr saeed ,sir i want to know that i have started a dairy farm and i have dedicated 12 acre land for this that is very fertile and have great water availibilty .my question to you is is salage good for cows all round year or it will b given at the time of shortage of fooder,i can grow 2 crops of corn on 12 acres twice a year which makes it 24 acres of corn in a year but some one told me thats not fair with your animals as its not green fooder,and suggested to harvest on crop of corn for silage and rest on green fooder mix silage with green fooder.and my second question is how many animals i can keep having dedicated 12 acres of land for it thanks in advance
I m trying to gather information for dairy business. It is not easy business but my aim is do some thing in this business. I am living in London. My life is very different here. But now I need change. Any one help me thanks
Hello amir,
Where about would like to start dairy farm in pakistan
I want to start Dairy farming business in professional way, I need suggestion.
1. Location (temp control and cost effective land with easy access to Medicine and hospital).
salaam every one………i belong to sahiwal…….i want to start cows dairyfarming…….pleaz help me……wht is the price of a good cow which gives atleast 20 litter milk per day………pleaz reply….
dear for 20 ltr per day milk you have to purchase fresion or jersey cattle its price is about 2.5 to 3 lakh
Dear USman,
20 litre cow is nearly 200,000 rupees if she has heifer (Female calve) then price is 250,000 rs
good luck
naveed adham
03336663339
Assalamo alaikum,
Does anyone have experience dealing with consulting firms (like Solve Agri Pak). They claim that they offer comprehensive consultancies to people interested in starting dairy farms.
What are the pros and cons of going through them ?
Dear Sir
Thanks for all very useful information.
Any one can tell me, the enviroment for cow farming. I mean we are living in a place which in summer is around 45C temprature and during winter it snows.
IS it a good enviroment for farming???? many people says NO it is not, the cows which are imported from Pakistan, they will die or sick during winter and you will loose asset.
one more question? do you suggest a farming only to keep cows and to sell it to butcher people for meat????
Regards
Waiting to hear from experts……….
Assalam-o-Alaikum
Boss, may God bless you for opening up this blog. I desperately want to start up live stock as business and for this I need one to one guidance / advise to under take the project.
I hail from Mianwali and have some land to spare for the job. Can you please guide me about :-
a.The type of animals one should keep and their reliable procurement source?
b.Their feeding and watering arrangements as well as practical health conservation tips before bring in the animals.
c. A sketch / layout plan for such a farm for brain storming and bringing the general idea home.
regards
Yours sincerely
Saad Ullah Khan
Hello Dr!
Here r the answers to your questions
a) You shud keep cross breed LOCAL X FRESIAN/JERSEY as they offer best combination of heat & disease protection and milk
b) Make silage/green fodder for next 6 months and make sure fresh water is available all the time
c) Visit as many farms as possible and figure out which design suits ur environment the best
Plz due extremely thorough research before you start, as if ur life depends on it…otherwise its very hard to succeed in Dairy business as its quite complicated and managment intensive.
Regards
-Bilal Ch
ok sir,
salam dr saeed ,sir i want to know that i have started a dairy farm and i have dedicated 12 acre land for this that is very fertile and have great water availibilty .my question to you is is salage good for cows all round year or it will b given at the time of shortage of fooder,i can grow 2 crops of corn on 12 acres twice a year which makes it 24 acres of corn in a year but some one told me thats not fair with your animals as its not green fooder,and suggested to harvest on crop of corn for silage and rest on green fooder mix silage with green fooder.and my second question is how many animals i can keep having dedicated 12 acres of land for it thanks in advance
salam all of you, i am sory for being absence for couple of days due some personal problems.
i am wih you know
dr saeed
Hey doctor saab. Hope all’s well?
Glad that you are back, your expertise were missed
…
Hoping to see you on the meetup too inshAllah ! (31st March – 4:30 PM at Garrison Golf Club)!!
Dear Sir
It was very very useful information. I want to start this business in Afghanistan. Could you please get in touch with me in my private email that where to buy some high quality cows in pakistan and bring them to Afghanistan?
I would be gratefull.
Regards
Dear Elyas!
I believe Sargodha region in particular and punjab province in general are good places to procure cross-breed cows.
Regards
-Bilal Ch
I did a simple calculation as below for a dairy farm only.
Land owned
Structure and building one time cost.
Silage cost Rs 5k * 10(cows) * 25 (kg per cow) * 30 (days) = 37,500
2 Workers cost pm approx Rs 35,000
Vet visit cost pm approx Rs 5,000
Utilities cost pm Rs 30,000
total cost per month . 107,500
revenue 20 (kg per cow) * 10 (cows) * 30 (days) * Rs 40 (per Kg) = Rs 240,000
Profit approx for 10 cows: Rs 133,000
Does this seem approximately ok ?
Omar.
P.S. I would like to meet you and discuss this. Please let me know your contact at oklodhi@yahoo.com
My friend I dont want to discourage u, but your calculations are very raw at best. Plz do a lot lot lot more research online and in the field before even thinking of starting a business as complicated as Dairy. Otherwise u will fall flat on face and break ur (financial) nose very badly. I hope u dont take my words to heart, cuz I just wanna advice u as best as possible.
Regards
-Bilal Ch.
Thank you for your viewpoint. What do you suggest I start with to get more information?
this is a good & outstanding business as well as hobby,intrust for a farmer..
Mr.OMAR’s calculation is absolutely correct. this is very profitable& reasonable work in forming field..
brother add the expense of feed. caws eat also.
I found your website on google and I must say it is very informative.
there are certain queries I have in this regard.
What is the price of silage per kg available in the market ?
What salary do you pay to the attendents / workers on the dairy farm?
How many cows should you have to get profit from the dairy farm? assuming the land is owned by you.
Regards
Omar
Thank you for your appreciation Omar.
I have never bought from the market, so have no idea… but the cost WILL vary significantly from area to area.
I pay between 4k to 10k. I do not have a qualified Vet on my payroll yet! I pay the vet about 1500 to 2000 depending on his visits (and his moods!!
)
The number of cows really is something you have to calculate yourself. If, for example, you have a running concern of farming, then bringing in even one cow will actually be profitable! (There will be no overheads and every animals comes with its own profit margins
)
Hope this helps.